Goodyear MT/R Kevlar's [Archive]

freeze

07-09-2009, 05:22 PM

I've decided to try these tires out for my next set as my tread is pretty near the wear bars on my MTZ's.

Would anyone else like to purchase a set? If we get 3 sets it'll be around $1350CAD for 285's.

I'm going to have to get tires pretty soon, so if you'd like let me know. Just thought I'd offer the discount if anyone needs new tires.

I'm still waiting for Hutchinson to get me a price for their wheels before I purchase tires.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/rlcraven/Rangles.jpg

Features Benefits
DuPont™ Kevlar® reinforced sidewalls Provides at least 35%* more puncture resistance for confidence in tough terrain Hardworking wraparound tread Offers enhanced sidewall traction in deep mud, sand and rocks Innovative asymmetric tread design Offers aggressive off-road traction while maintaining enhanced handling on the road
Advanced silica rubber For superb off-road and wet traction

BeachBoy

07-09-2009, 05:48 PM

wow, weird pattern!

and it's quite cheap (compared to what I paid for my tires)

freeze

07-09-2009, 07:07 PM

Price is pretty decent. I think regular price is $1,600 CAD

Yeah the tread pattern is interesting. I wasn't really into the side lugs, but apparently they are designed really well when aired down.

It's supposed to be really quiet on the road due to the tighter lugs in the center and really good at cleaning out with the larger lugs on the outside. The nice thing is it's sipped.

I hope these tires are as good as the MTZ's that you're running.

RedApe

07-09-2009, 11:05 PM

Saw these on a late model access cab Taco this eve, here at the Sobey's in Evergreeen/Bridlewood this eve. VERY impressive looking tire...I'm sure they'll suit you Nathan.

Doc McCoy

07-10-2009, 06:33 AM

What about 33x12.5x15?

freeze

07-10-2009, 08:55 AM

Yup. Pretty much any size you want. I'm sure bigger the tire will cost a bit more of course.

Heeltoe989

07-10-2009, 09:52 AM

Their my next tire Nathan!

Let me know how they work out for you!

Richard

Brazenhead

07-10-2009, 02:26 PM

freeze

07-10-2009, 11:23 PM

The cost is for 4.

Their my next tire Nathan!

Let me know how they work out for you!

Richard

For sure!!

Heeltoe989

07-15-2009, 01:41 PM

The cost is for 4.

For sure!!

You need 5 :)

Doc McCoy

07-18-2009, 08:39 PM

I've decided to try these tires out for my next set as my tread is pretty near the wear bars on my MTZ's.

Would anyone else like to purchase a set? If we get 3 sets it'll be around $1350CAD for 285's.

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Nathan ... it might be worthwhile to use Discont Tire Direct out of the states and have them delivered to Montana. Aprox. $1563 CAD for 5 tires. Or $1250 CAD for 4. That's with their "Free Replacement Certificates". Without those you'd save another $163 USD or $131 USD respectively.

freeze

07-20-2009, 01:20 PM

Thanks Doc! I will look into this. I gonna see if I can do this in Seattle cause I drive down there frequently.

Winch

07-20-2009, 02:05 PM

Yes, I can vouch for Discount tire and have so far received two shipments from them. Fast, courteous accurate service, and ...... you cannot beat those free replacements!!!

freeze

07-20-2009, 02:23 PM

Kind off topic but... how'd your upper link work out? I'm assuming you got home ok after the course.

Winch

07-20-2009, 03:10 PM

Kind off topic but... how'd your upper link work out? I'm assuming you got home ok after the course.

Yes, thanks to everyone who helped me out -that ratched strap I borrowed from Will did the job. In hindsight, I'm now pretty sure I busted that bolt when I tightened it up on Thursday, rather than on that hill. The thing keeps on loosening up on me, so on Thursday, I doubled up on a couple big wrenches for leverage, and on the last pull, the wrench came off violently. I thought it just slipped off the head, but now, I think I broke it, because the truck felt a bit loose all day, and started hopping on the hill which is something I have never felt in this truck before. I should be able to tell tonight when I inspect it. (Yes, yes, I'm hoping to find an excuse for loosing against Meghan :)

S/C '03 taco

07-20-2009, 06:25 PM

they call them goodyear cus it's good if you get them to last a year

freeze

07-20-2009, 08:57 PM

I'm glad it worked out and you were able to make it home.

Hey Chris... i've been running those MT/R's on my 81 since 2002! That's with commuting from Lethbridge to Calgary and to ski hills! They were just really deadly on the ice...

freeze

07-20-2009, 09:50 PM

haha.. i should add... those tires mostly see dirt though!

Chaos

04-29-2010, 01:17 PM

Nathan,

What's the update on the Goodyear MT/R's? Pros? Cons?

Any feedback is appreciated!

Doc McCoy

04-29-2010, 02:24 PM

He went another way ... He got the Mickey Thompsons.

canadian bum

04-29-2010, 08:04 PM

Got a friend that has them on his Cruiser. Went and tested them out not that long ago. In the mud they clog really fast. But that has always been the case with the MTR. However they seem to retain the mud while your driving along the trail for some time. My KM2's just naturally clean at a slow trail speed but the MTR seemed to like to cling the mud. Further testing will be taken into consideration. And we have two identical vehicles running similar sized tires. One stock height one 3 inch lift. Both are 80 series diesel land cruisers with front and rear lockers.

Stock hieght one has 33x12.5R15 on a 10 inch wide rim. The 3 inch one has 305/70R16 KM2's. Just from what I have seen so far I think the KM2 has it beat. Mind you this is in traction not how tough the tire is when it comes to abuse. I know BFG has a reputation for ripping out side walls but I am on my third set of BFG's in the taco 5th set total and have put all of the tires through hell and haven't torn a sidewall yet. I have seen it happen though in what seems like the least likely circumstances.

Will update later but so far I and my other friend love our KM2's. The one with the MTR's once he gets his 4 inch lift is going to go with a set of Nitto Mud Grapplers.

Doc McCoy

04-30-2010, 10:30 AM

I managed to destroy my BFG AT Sidewalls ...

Granted ... it was on Cliffhanger. I'm not too worried to be putting my KM2s on.

Krazie Sj

04-30-2010, 11:54 AM

Keep in mind though that Goodyear designed the MT/R as more of a rock tire, instead of a mud tire.

freeze

04-30-2010, 12:45 PM

as in Maximum Traction/Radial :D

But this new design they are touting better mud traction.

Krazie Sj

04-30-2010, 06:02 PM

as in Maximum Traction/Radial :D

But this new design they are touting better mud traction.

I'd totally love to get a set of those.

But with the ARB bumper, I'm banned from purchasing anything for 6 months. :p

kigi

04-30-2010, 06:42 PM

I'd totally love to get a set of those.

But with the ARB bumper, I'm banned from purchasing anything for 6 months. :p

Too funny...Most of my purchases are around birthday's / christmas or shoe aquisistions by gf.

Krazie Sj

04-30-2010, 07:16 PM

Too funny...Most of my purchases are around birthday's / christmas or shoe aquisistions by gf.

Well and realistically, I should owe the bank nothing on the truck before I start modding the ++++ out of it.

Chaos

04-30-2010, 08:20 PM

Well and realistically, I should owe the bank nothing on the truck before I start modding the ++++ out of it.

Yea I hear ya on that one, I just tell the gf it makes the truck worth more if we need to sell it in a pinch ;)

And thanks all for the input on the tires, I wasn't going to go with the MTR's but input is helpful to make a decision.

I think I'm going to aim my sights on the Nitto Trail Grapplers' if not the Mud Grapplers

Krazie Sj

04-30-2010, 10:18 PM

Yea I hear ya on that one, I just tell the gf it makes the truck worth more if we need to sell it in a pinch ;)

And thanks all for the input on the tires, I wasn't going to go with the MTR's but input is helpful to make a decision.

I think I'm going to aim my sights on the Nitto Trail Grapplers' if not the Mud Grapplers

I haven't heard very good things on the Mud Grapplers. Go the Trail grapplers. More like BFGs old KMs.

That and I hate the gay crap Nitto puts on the side of their tires. (Trail grapplers exempt cause they don't have any, just lugs)

canadian bum

05-01-2010, 11:04 AM

I know that the MT/R's are a rock tire. But they should still clean out when driving down dry trail. We will have a good test here in a little bit. Run equal pressures or find out what pressures make the tires flex equal amounts. Even though you can go lower with the 16 inch rim just because it holds the beads better.

I will the running the Mud Grapplers on the 45. Done lots of research and talked to a few people that have run them and are running them. I was thinking they would be worn out in no time but are lasting 70,000+ km's on an F-350 so that is plenty for me.

As for the gay crap on the side walls I don't think the mud grapplers sidewalls are gay they are really tough and thick the side wall lugs stick out a ton for better traction aired down and less chance of ripping on rocks.

The downsides to a Mud Grappler is that they compare with a bogger to noise on the highway if you care about noise, lots of coin, and limited variation in sizes.

To me I will pay the money to have a good tire that is going to last because I could go through a couple of super swampers before one set of Nitto's.

Winch

05-03-2010, 11:07 AM

Yeah, I think the new MTR's should clean out a bit better than the old style, but what I would be interseted in is to see how they compare with the KM2's on rock (and perhaps even with the old MTR's) :)

freeze

05-03-2010, 03:41 PM

canadian bum

05-03-2010, 07:56 PM

From what I have seen is that I think the old ones clean a little better but a side by side test is needed to for sure see. The MT/R and KM2 test will happen whenever I have the time to go out wheeling as well as the other 2 80 series are available for the trip.

Krazie Sj

05-04-2010, 04:07 PM

I will the running the Mud Grapplers on the 45. Done lots of research and talked to a few people that have run them and are running them. I was thinking they would be worn out in no time but are lasting 70,000+ km's on an F-350 so that is plenty for me.

As for the gay crap on the side walls I don't think the mud grapplers sidewalls are gay they are really tough and thick the side wall lugs stick out a ton for better traction aired down and less chance of ripping on rocks.

The sidewalls are just a personal preference. I don't knock people who roll with them, I just won't be purchasing a set myself due to the fact that I couldn't stand them on my truck.

If they work good as mudders, have at. Reading up on them myself, I found that for the price you can get comparable performance with a cheaper tire. But again...this is 3rd hand information, I haven't personally run a set (and won't unless they're free).

But I will be curious to hear your review on them on a Taco.

canadian bum

05-04-2010, 07:00 PM

The sidewalls are just a personal preference. I don't knock people who roll with them, I just won't be purchasing a set myself due to the fact that I couldn't stand them on my truck.

If they work good as mudders, have at. Reading up on them myself, I found that for the price you can get comparable performance with a cheaper tire. But again...this is 3rd hand information, I haven't personally run a set (and won't unless they're free).

But I will be curious to hear your review on them on a Taco.

They won't be on a Taco. They will be on my 45. And its because of the size that I am looking at these tires. 35x14.5R15. I don't like running a 10 inch wide rim on a 12.5 tire. The rim gets too chewed up and there are only a select few tires that are over 12.5. If Iroks lasted on the highway I would have put a set of those on. But in the rocks and all other types of terrains the Mud Grapplers perform well. The only Nitto Tires I think look gay are the dune grapplers but I don't know anyone who would ever run those.

You mentioned tires that are cheaper and would get similar performance could you please list them? As maybe I have missed them. The other option which is a possibility is the Toyo Open Country M/T's. either the 37x14.5R15 or the 35x13.5R15. If I need bigger than a 35 I will go with the Toyo's.

freeze

05-04-2010, 07:25 PM

I don't like running a 10 inch wide rim on a 12.5 tire. The rim gets too chewed up and there are only a select few tires that are over 12.5.

Rims going to get chewed up no matter, just need bigger rocks!, but I can understand if it's losing a bead you're worried about. I run a 10.5" rim (Champion Beadlock) on 12.5" and the tires still bulge over the rim. Old MT/R measure's narrow too. You won't have issues running a 10" wide on 12.5", just a matter of beads blowing a little easier than 8". Aired down with the wider rim you don't get cupping so you tread sits nice and flat.

You mentioned tires that are cheaper and would get similar performance could you please list them? As maybe I have missed them.

This is coming soon from Tread Right in a 37" Check out the compound!!
http://www.treadwright.com/portals/0/aspdnsf/images/product/large/81_1_.jpg
http://www.treadwright.com/shopnow/product/tabid/61/productid/81/sename/37x1250r165-guard-dog.aspx

New Nitto Trail Grappler looks better in person than in photo's. Very similar idea to the KM2.

Cooper Discovery M/T
http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT-Tires/images/Cooper-Discoverer-STT-s.jpg

Green Diamond Icelander M/T (Think Geolander with carbide in the tread)
http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT-Tires/images/Green-Diamond-Tire-Icelander-MT_small.jpg

canadian bum

05-04-2010, 07:33 PM

I still don't want to run a 12.5 on a 10. There are lots of options if I stick to 12.5 but if I do I would switch out to a 8 inch wide rim. It's not as easy to chew up an 8 inch wide rim as a 10 inch. I will be running inner bead lock bladders so I am not afraid of loosing a bead its just the fact that I will be running a lot of rocks with this truck and to have the rim tucked in would be better for my application.

freeze

05-04-2010, 07:40 PM

Just for comparison

10.5" wide
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3086/2297131519_36a98fb254_b.jpg

Crap... I just remembered I don't have photo's of when it was on an 8" wide because I didn't have a camera back then! haha. wow how far we've come. Sorry John.

I'll try to dig up some photo's I can scan. 35mm days!!

canadian bum

05-04-2010, 07:42 PM

Haha its okay I have lots of friends running the 8 inch wide rims on 12.5's. I actually traded my 8's for your 10's that my friend bought off you because the rims were too wide for him so now they are going on the cruiser.

freeze

05-04-2010, 07:47 PM

haha nice.... i still have my old 8's too.. I don't think I put them for sale for some reason!

But yeah if you need a set of 8" same style without the stripe I've got a set.

canadian bum

05-04-2010, 07:49 PM

I think with the amount of snow wheeling I do and the wieght of the Cruiser it will be nice to get a bigger foot print. I like to try and float not sink especially since the snow out west can get to be a few feet deep.

freeze

05-04-2010, 07:54 PM

yeah i hear ya... it was sooo nice to be back on beadlocks in the snow. at 5psi i was loving staying afloat and back on top. Creepy crawly to stay on top was awesome!. Plus having a wider tire on 8.9" rims.

I can't wait for this winter to bring some big storms!

Krazie Sj

05-04-2010, 07:56 PM

New Nitto Trail Grappler looks better in person than in photo's. Very similar idea to the KM2.

Cooper Discovery M/T

Green Diamond Icelander M/T (Think Geolander with carbide in the tread)

What he said. Although the Greendiamonds aren't availible in Canada. You have to trek down to the states to get them. They're on the short list for the next tire I get, as I want an M/T, but with the street manners of an A/T.

canadian bum

05-05-2010, 01:23 AM

What he said. Although the Greendiamonds aren't availible in Canada. You have to trek down to the states to get them. They're on the short list for the next tire I get, as I want an M/T, but with the street manners of an A/T.

All those tires are only 12.5's. There are a boat load of 12.5's.
MT/R's
KM2's
MTZ's
Truxus MT's
SSR's

Piles upon piles of 12.5's for a 35 inch tire. However the tires that are wider than 12.5's are limited and if I have missed any let me know. Super Swamper makes a couple but run a competition style tread compound which lasts at best 20,000 km's on the highway. The other two are Toyo and Nitto. Mickey Tompson makes a 36x15.5R16 which in a magazine they misprinted and said 15 inch rim. So options are still limited. There are tons of tires out there that are a 12.5 wide probably triple at least what I listed for a 35.

Chaos

05-05-2010, 02:08 PM

Has anyone heard of Kelly Tires, Safari TSR's?

Krazie Sj

05-05-2010, 03:27 PM

All those tires are only 12.5's. There are a boat load of 12.5's.

Hmm, then I got nothing I'm sorry. To fit those on my taco would require an act of god. :p

Has anyone heard of Kelly Tires, Safari TSR's?

Sure have. They look pretty good for an A/T. Kinda along the same lines as the Goodyear Duratrac. (Which is no surprise seeing as they're sister companies)

keener

06-03-2010, 04:31 AM

from researching the new MT/R Kevlar's ( I was going to go with these )... Here's what I've found:

Extremely quiet from the outgoing model
Computer modeled in Nasa server farm for increased mud clearing and side biter design.
It is not a directinal design so it can be rotated
You have to order white's out or black out specifically
Does have limited siping in the middle tread blocks
Not great in compact snow but much better than outgoing model
Better directional control in mud and snow
As good if not better in the rocks than the outgoing model (which is pretty dang good!

I've had 285/70/75s for a few months now, they're not as quiet as I was expecting/what they're claiming, pretty much the same road noise as any other M/T I've run. I've run the old MT/Rs like you, and compared to them, the new ones are a huge improvement on the trail. The mud traction is greatly improved, some people say they don't clean, but my tacoma hasn't had a problem cleaning them out. The first weekend I had them I went out to Golden sledding, and they destroyed the fire roads with about 1' of fresh wet snow. With all the wheeling you do i'd recomend them for sure, they work awesome.

keener

06-03-2010, 04:35 AM

Nevermind, I just read the part that said you got Mickeys, haha, i thought this thread was a lot newer. Well, now you know what I think about them haha

freeze

06-03-2010, 11:54 AM

haha... no worries! I did go back to the MTZ's for the compact snow/ice traction. I won't completely know until I try the tires but from the research there were enough guys in the northwest that were having a hard time in the winter conditions. Sounds like the mud clearing is much better than the old from the reports minus John's friend.

rickashay

01-27-2011, 08:09 PM

Old thread revival!!

Just wondering if anyone has heard anything else about these tires. Especially regarding treadwear and their performance in the mud?? I dont see many people running them....

RiceFarmer

01-27-2011, 11:11 PM

Old thread revival!!

Just wondering if anyone has heard anything else about these tires. Especially regarding treadwear and their performance in the mud?? I dont see many people running them....

Seen a few reviews on them. For the most part, pretty decent treadwear and it has it's work cut out for it when clearing mud. Utopoo runs the Kevlars on his 80 series. Getting a first hand account from him would be awesome, plus I'm looking at running those this summer!

rickashay

01-28-2011, 12:32 AM

yah, i definetly would like to hear about them in the mud.... i hear tons of good things on them for treadwear, on the highway, on the rocks etc. etc. but barely anything on how they self clean.... we definetly have muddy terrain for the most part so I need to know!! haha

Hilux Max

04-01-2011, 04:04 AM

Getting a set of these fitted this Monday - 305/70x16 (33.1x12.2x16)

looking forward to it...one of the last 2 sets in this size in the country! :o

yotaduck

04-04-2011, 08:25 PM

I just got a set put on! 285/70/17s. They look awesome, hopefully I'll be able to test them soon.

CalgaryRider

04-05-2011, 10:05 AM

I just got a set put on! 285/70/17s. They look awesome, hopefully I'll be able to test them soon.

PICTURES!!! LOL

I'm going for new rubber soon and its down to the Duratracs or the MT/R Kevlars!

Also give us a review once you get a few miles on them!

Krazie Sj

04-05-2011, 11:28 AM

There's some Dick Cepek Mud Country's for sale super cheap in the for sale section. $800 for $1200+ tires.

Same company and set up as the MTZs the rest of us are running.

CalgaryRider

04-05-2011, 11:30 AM

There's some Dick Cepek Mud Country's for sale super cheap in the for sale section. $800 for $1200+ tires.

Same company and set up as the MTZs the rest of us are running.

yeah i checked those out... the only catch is that I have a 17 inch rim... I don't think the stretched look would go well on my truck, lol!!

Krazie Sj

04-05-2011, 12:06 PM

Boo!

yotaduck

04-05-2011, 02:15 PM

Pics are up in my build thread, I'll be sure to write a review as soon as I get some time on them.

Reeeno403

04-05-2011, 07:01 PM

Shane I have not seen that look yet but would be very interested to see it....Do it hahaha

91Runner

04-05-2011, 07:06 PM

It wouldnt work. You'd tear the beads. Tires can be stretched horizontally (skinny tires on a fat rim), But not vertically (16" tire on a 17" rim)

Reeeno403

04-05-2011, 07:06 PM

It wouldnt work. You'd tear the beads. Tires can be stretched horizontally (skinny tires on a fat rim), But not vertically (16" tire on a 17" rim)
HAHAHA sorry dude I was joking!

91Runner

04-05-2011, 07:10 PM

HAHAHA sorry dude I was joking!

;) and I was being a TROLL

Doc McCoy

04-06-2011, 09:19 AM

Well just to continue the trolling, there have been cases of people stretching 16s to put on 16.5 commercial wheels. Which is why they have those warnings written all over them not to.

CalgaryRider

04-06-2011, 03:41 PM

Thanks for all the info trolls, LOL

Got some good news and bad news. Good news is that I am getting new tires Duratracs, bad new is that the MT/R Kevlar is on backorder all over North America. I think Yotaduck got the last set in western Canada.

Fountain Tire is -15 on backorder....

yotaduck

04-06-2011, 07:53 PM

Haha, no way! I don't know where mine came from, but fountain tire here on The Island got them for me in a week.

I assume you went with 285s for the duratracks?

yotaduck

04-12-2011, 10:07 PM

Well, the first week didn't go so well. Turns out I got a bad batch:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/McCutcheonDan/slice.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/McCutcheonDan/slice2.jpg

I did go against the tires suggested mounting and put the white in, but I wouldn't think that would have anything to do with why they sliced so quickly. From reading on Yotatech, there are some who have mounted them inside out with no problems.

The new set will be on tomorrow!

hazardhat

04-12-2011, 10:34 PM

No way! So were they covered under warranty seeing as they've been on for 0.2 seconds?

yotaduck

04-12-2011, 10:39 PM

Yep! The manager at Fountain Tire took a 30 second look at each tire and went to the computer and got a new set on the way.

Reeeno403

04-12-2011, 10:43 PM

Good thing for that but still a pita

91Runner

04-13-2011, 12:01 AM

Wow.. Thats whacky.. Good thing you've got a new set coming!

yotaduck

04-13-2011, 09:43 AM

It does suck a bit, but really no big deal, just a delay on when I could see what they can do! New set going on now. I'm really surprised they got 4 replacement tires so quickly. :D

hazardhat

04-13-2011, 09:55 AM

That was fast. Are you putting the white out this time or back in again?

CalgaryRider

04-13-2011, 10:00 AM

It does suck a bit, but really no big deal, just a delay on when I could see what they can do! New set going on now. I'm really surprised they got 4 replacement tires so quickly. :D

I want to know how they did that! they are supposed to be on backorder! you lucky guy you.....

yotaduck

04-13-2011, 10:01 AM

White is going on the inside, I thought about playing it safe with white out but.. (Cue stubbornness)

I have no idea! Haha, I do know they had to get them out of Alberta.

91Runner

04-13-2011, 10:03 AM

I'm really looking forward to your review on these. I need new tires pronto

rickashay

04-13-2011, 10:25 AM

White is going on the inside, I thought about playing it safe with white out but.. (Cue stubbornness)

I have no idea! Haha, I do know they had to get them out of Alberta.

These are intended for "white-out" direction are they not? I remember reading somewhere that they are not directional but are meant to be white-out, is that correct?

yotaduck

04-13-2011, 10:36 AM

Yes they are, you can mount them backwards or forwards but they do have a specific side that they want you to have out. Some sizes are black out and some are white out. I read somewhere that it is to get the best performance out of the tire. But there are reports of people running them black out where they're intended for white out with no problems.

yotaduck

04-13-2011, 02:28 PM

Round 2 begins!

Reeeno403

04-13-2011, 05:14 PM

I dont know how that works exactly but its new to me. I would suggest emailing the manufacture.

Hilux Max

04-13-2011, 10:39 PM

can anybody explain what the pro's and con's are of running these tyres white out or white in?

Orcus

04-13-2011, 11:15 PM

Loooks, thats about it. do you want to see the white letters or not.

Stuwy123

04-13-2011, 11:34 PM

[QUOTE=Krazie Sj;16408]Hmm, then I got nothing I'm sorry. To fit those on my taco would require an act of god. :p
QUOTE]

No more like an act of grinder and welder. Just gotta shop at the body mount a bit and little plastic trimming.
It's been done.