Frame/horn changes 1st -> 2nd gen

[Andyl]

G'day all,

Doing some planning / design on the '90s front bumper... Getting ready to start mocking up... But I have issues with the wife driving around bumperless for a few weeks while I git'r'dun.

Wondering how much the frame & front horns changed between my 87 and the 90 - Can I do the basic mock-up on the 87 then once I'm happy with that move it over to the 90 without having to make massive modifications?

Anyone know? they look similar, they measure pretty close... But - we know how toyota can be sometimes :D

[aristo-crat]

I believe they are fairly close, but looking at bumper manufactures (eg. Trail gear) they list a diff one for 90-95. now whether thats to closer match the body, im not sure.

[uriedog]

I think the forward facing bolt holes are the same. Pretty sure the sides are different.

Just drive it with no bumper. it'll be OK. Jost tell her no crashing

[aristo-crat]

try to put the 90s bumper one the 87, see if it fits.

[Tarzan]

Better yet use my Runner (a 90) as it's not a daily driver and make two bumpers.:D

[Andyl]

Got enough steel on hand for 3 - could happen :D

Having the DW drive with no bumper = not gonna happen... I notice in the short time she's had the 90 - she's hooked something backing up... Hit something just over the drivers turn signal, and there's a mystery scrape by the towpoint... Luckily the paint transfer appears to be safety yellow - so probably bollards in parking lots... But still; I hate body work; not going to create more to do :D

[lackneramanda]

G'day all,

Doing some planning / design on the '90s front bumper... Getting ready to start mocking up... But I have issues with the wife driving around bumperless for a few weeks while I git'r'dun.

Wondering how much the frame & front novelty horns (http://www.carparts.com/Novelty-Horns/600022728.car) changed between my 87 and the 90 - Can I do the basic mock-up on the 87 then once I'm happy with that move it over to the 90 without having to make massive modifications?

Anyone know? they look similar, they measure pretty close... But - we know how toyota can be sometimes :D

ok so i my horn has a short or something...every now and then the horn will go off(engine on or off) and keep going for a few minutes and then shut off again and also i can not use the horn..it will not work when i press on the steering wheel, so i have no clue whats wrong nor can i find the horn...maybe im just blind idk but could someone help....oh yeah its on a 2007 4 door wrangler..

[Reeeno403]

Horns are almost always located up front near the grill to optimize your sound.

[darthyota]

how did the bumper turn out? got pics? were you able to do a mock up off your 87? i know they are close enough to the same that you should have been able to most of the work for the 90 off of the 87