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Sprockett
01-19-2010, 01:42 PM
Anyone interested in a one day winter trip to the Waiparous area at the end of the month? Unfortunately, I do not know the area at all so a trail guide is needed.

My truck needs to get out somewhere after all this work. If there are more who are interested and someone (a couple) who knows the area, I can turn this into a more 'official' unofficial run thread :)

Thanks,
Ryan

Ok, seems there might be enough interest:

Date and Time: Saturday, Jan 30th 8:30am @ meeting location
Meeting Location: Cochrane, Tim Hortons
Who's Leading: Open position
Who's Tail Gunning: Open position
Expected Number of Trucks: 9
Expected Time of Return: Off trail by 4pm
Radio Channles (CB, FRS, VHF): CB 10 / FRS 1 sub 0
The Trail Name: New winter trails? Margaret Lake?
Difficulty Expected: Unknown
Equipment Needed: Recovery Points front and rear, AT or MT tires with tread left, extra clothing, food water for everyone in the vehicle
CT4WD Courses Needed: None

RSVP List:
- Sprockett
- Jeff Moss
- Peter - cn4xc/92 Toy SAS
- Dante's Taco
- Wellsy
- Doc McCoy
- tacotaco
- 874runnersr5
- S/C '03 taco


Notes:
- For a go, we should have someone familiar with the area willing to lead and tail gun...at least someone with CB communication in tail gun.
- Any make welcome

FJeff Cruiser
01-19-2010, 02:50 PM
Hey Ryan... I'm totally in for a run. Can't wait to see the truck : )

Tarzan
01-19-2010, 11:06 PM
I might be in for a run. I know the the trails a bit and would like to check out the re opened winter trails.

Sprockett
01-19-2010, 11:42 PM
Sweet, this could be looking up.

In order to happen, we do need someone who who knows the area so it would be great if you could make it Harry. Anyone who can confirm their attendance, be clear and I'll add your name to the first post.

Doc McCoy
01-20-2010, 07:22 AM
Great job on the post format Ryan! I'm hoping my truck is ready by then.

Sprockett
01-20-2010, 04:54 PM
A fellow named Peter with a SASed 92 pickup looks to be interested. I believe you know him from Calgary Nissan club Harry? Anyways, he's been to Waiparous recently and I found him on the Beyond forums. Maybe he'll make an appearance on this thread too :)

freeze
01-20-2010, 05:09 PM
Bugga.... I'm coaching the little RMF'ers at their comp in Kimberly...

Wellsy
01-20-2010, 05:16 PM
Mark me down as a Def Maybe ;)

I'm in for a nice mellow run - shake out a few bugs and make sure I remember how to wheel.

Hounddog
01-20-2010, 05:31 PM
Petes been with us for years and years. There's a few of us here from CN4XC - now known as Calgary Import 4WD club. A great guy to have on trail with you.

Put me down as a tentative.

Sprockett
01-20-2010, 09:14 PM
Petes been with us for years and years. There's a few of us here from CN4XC - now known as Calgary Import 4WD club. A great guy to have on trail with you.

Put me down as a tentative.

That's great. Just found out Peter has confirmed that he's in for this run. Looking forward to meeting him and the others here I haven't met.


I'm in for a nice mellow run - shake out a few bugs and make sure I remember how to wheel.

Yes, also looking for mellow shake down run. I'm bringing the whole family too!

Thanks,
Ryan

Dante's Taco
01-20-2010, 10:11 PM
I'd like to come, but have a question about my tires:

So, you mentioned MT or AT tires - my Hakkapeliittas (winter, studded) are M&S rated, with the snowflake symbol. They are not really any AT or MT. Any thoughts how they'd work on a winter trail? If at all?

Geoff

Sprockett
01-20-2010, 10:44 PM
Traction aside, I would not take a tire like that offroad because they are not constructed to with durabilty or puncture resistance off pavement in mind?

Dante's Taco
01-20-2010, 11:43 PM
they're LT rated, 10-ply, if that matters...

G

Sprockett
01-20-2010, 11:49 PM
LT rating and 10 ply sounds like offroad consideration to me.

Dante's Taco
01-20-2010, 11:53 PM
Well, I'd like to tag along if that'd be cool? - I'll prob. bring some of my family too. (son +/- daughter). Have done Intro course & been to Waiparous this past summer.

Trucks still pretty stock though. If you don't think it'd work out, I'm OK with you saying so..

G

Doc McCoy
01-21-2010, 08:15 AM
I'd like to come, but have a question about my tires:

So, you mentioned MT or AT tires - my Hakkapeliittas (winter, studded) are M&S rated, with the snowflake symbol. They are not really any AT or MT. Any thoughts how they'd work on a winter trail? If at all?

Geoff

If you have the Hakkapeliitta LT you shouldn't do to bad ... the voids look large enough to clear some of the snow. The Hakkapeliitta 5 SUV and the SUV look as though they might turn into slicks after getting filled with deep snow.

Of course, there is only one way to find out! (There will be at least one person with a winch :D )

Hounddog
01-21-2010, 08:27 AM
I'd like to come, but have a question about my tires:

So, you mentioned MT or AT tires - my Hakkapeliittas (winter, studded) are M&S rated, with the snowflake symbol. They are not really any AT or MT. Any thoughts how they'd work on a winter trail? If at all?

Geoff

Some food for thought for ya! A couple of fella's over on the former cn4xc site winter wheel with their dedicated winter tires. Haven't heard of any complaints from them.

Tacorossa
01-21-2010, 01:38 PM
I'd like to come, but have a question about my tires:

So, you mentioned MT or AT tires - my Hakkapeliittas (winter, studded) are M&S rated, with the snowflake symbol. They are not really any AT or MT. Any thoughts how they'd work on a winter trail? If at all?

Geoff

You will be just fine with those tires offroad. I worked with a guy last winter who had them on his Chev and we drove up and down freshly cleared pipeline corridors all day. Stumps and branches and rocks were no match for the LT's.

FJeff Cruiser
01-21-2010, 04:53 PM
I'm not sure - But Victor expressed interest as well.

Dante's Taco
01-21-2010, 07:38 PM
Thanks for the encouragement re: tires.

Doc: yes they're the LT's

I guess we'll soon find out! :D

Hounddog
01-24-2010, 12:54 PM
[QUOTE=...Put me down as a tentative.[/QUOTE]


Oops, spoke too soon. I`m out. Apparently there are several events happening this day that are, ``...clearly written on the calendar...``

Another time.

Sprockett
01-24-2010, 12:57 PM
That's too bad. The long term forecast is looking like warmer temps for next weekend. Hopefully some of these tentatives will turn into confirms :)

CalgaryRider
01-25-2010, 09:55 AM
Hey anyone got room for a passenger? I have a friend who would love to go winter wheeling, and I am working pretty much every weekend till the end of may, so I cant take her, but would anyone mind taking a passenger? If so I will let her know the specifics. Thanks!

Doc McCoy
01-25-2010, 12:41 PM
Max is my co-pilot. Sorry :(

Wellsy
01-25-2010, 12:52 PM
Ok looks like i'm in for sure. Just need to give truck a once over - make sure everything is good to go..

Where are we meeting in Cochrane? Or are we meeting at a certain time/place in Waip - eg gravel pits - I will need to unload my trailer and store it there for the run.

Dante's Taco
01-25-2010, 01:23 PM
I wouldn't mind grabbing a bite & some gas in Cochrane, after the drive down from Red Deer...

Re: CalgaryRider: Not sure if will have much room for extra if 2 of my kids, plus dog (big lab) come, sorry..

CalgaryRider
01-25-2010, 01:41 PM
no worries, just seeing if someone had any room. If not she can always catch a ride at a later date or I will have to take her in the spring and hopefully find some snow along the way.

Sprockett
01-25-2010, 01:49 PM
My personal preference would be to meet in :):):):)rane somewhere. Smitty's in Cochrane is still closed for renos however. Anyone else have a meeting place to suggest in Cochrane?

Does that mean you are in for sure Doc?

No passenger room here either, sorry. Bringing the wife and kids this time.

Thanks,
Ryan

freeze
01-25-2010, 04:11 PM
There's the Tim Horton's just down the street from Smitty's.

Wellsy
01-25-2010, 04:17 PM
Or if people want a quick bite to eat on the way out there is a Mcdonalds on 5th ave. I'm just wanting to know if people are wanting a sit down breaky or just want to get on the road early.. Need to know when to leave my place.

Tarzan
01-25-2010, 07:44 PM
Tim Hortons is the usual meeting place but as with all Tims it's super busy in the AM. I will have room but I've scared the daylights out of many of my passengers. The photo of me in Indian Graves nearly on my side was with a buddies daughter on board (she held on to the roof and walls very well).

Sprockett
01-25-2010, 08:45 PM
Does this mean you are in confirmed Harry? :D

How about we say Tim Hortons as the meeting place Saturday morning. Some may want a sit down, others just meet to go. We can just decide on a time to head out by and those who want a sit down breakfast can come early enough to do so?

I don't think I'll sit down to eat with the kids personally but still hope to be there a little early. When do we want to ship out by? 8:30am?

Dante's Taco
01-25-2010, 10:09 PM
Timmys is fine by me, and so is 08:30

So, it doesn't look like I'll have an air compressor by Sat. I was trying to get a cheap MV-50 from Amazon.com, but Amazon wont ship it to Canada :confused: - or any air compressor, for some reason. Now looking at Viair stuff, but way more $.

Out of the guys coming, does someone have "enuf puff" to spare? I don't really see anything good (local) here in the Deer - so I'm going to have to order online I guess. I don't want the Canada Tire 3-in-1 thing. If I'm missing a good local store to find a MV-50 clone, let me know...

thanks

Geoff

FJeff Cruiser
01-26-2010, 12:12 AM
8:30am at Tim's works for me too.

Wellsy
01-26-2010, 12:30 AM
Sounds good - Tim's at 8:30...

And Geoff I'm sure someone will be able to air you back up. I'll check what I have left in my powertank tomorrow, Not sure what I have left for pressure in it though - It might be frozen too. LOL

freeze
01-26-2010, 12:46 AM
I can send my tried and true but slow CDN tire compressor with David W. as back up. :D

Do pack super warm clothes and blankets and fire making goods. The sun has baked the south facing slopes so expect sheer ice or sun crust with major facets underneith on those slopes. Perhaps faceting or Wind crust on the north facing slopes. Keep in mind coming back can be harder than going out. Make sure winches are top notch shape...may have to even winch downhill if it's deep facets.

Really wish I could make it out for this one.

Have a great trip!

CalgaryRider
01-26-2010, 09:23 AM
Tim Hortons is the usual meeting place but as with all Tims it's super busy in the AM. I will have room but I've scared the daylights out of many of my passengers. The photo of me in Indian Graves nearly on my side was with a buddies daughter on board (she held on to the roof and walls very well).

Hey Harry, yeah could I send you a passenger? Her name is Julie and she is the one who is helping me get parts right now, and she loves winter wheeling. Can I get her to meet you at Timmy's in Cochrane on Sat morning? She is a girl who doesn't scare easy so she should be a good passenger for you!

Sprockett
01-26-2010, 09:31 AM
The sun has baked the south facing slopes so expect sheer ice or sun crust with major facets underneith on those slopes. Perhaps faceting or Wind crust on the north facing slopes. Keep in mind coming back can be harder than going out. Make sure winches are top notch shape...may have to even winch downhill if it's deep facets.


You're scaring me Nathan. I mean, I'm not naive but hoping for a easy shakedown run not a winchfest! :)

Wellsy
01-26-2010, 10:15 AM
I agree with Nathan..

The hills will def be slick..!! I was out there a couple weeks ago on my quad - and some of the hills were skating rinks.

Which makes it really interesting when your trying to pull a dead Polaris 850 up them...

We can check some of the winter trails when we get out there - if they are too slick we may just choose some other flatter ones for everyone. LOL

BeachBoy
01-26-2010, 10:43 AM
dead polaris, those words go very well together, and it's true for wuads and sleds!! ;)

Wellsy
01-26-2010, 12:20 PM
Yep blown belt about 24 kms out on our way to pretty rock.. Fun fun - even rolled mine trying to pull his back, got traction on one of those icy hills and over she went..

Wellsy
01-26-2010, 03:36 PM
Any one bringin a chainsaw - or should I bring mine just incase?

Tarzan
01-27-2010, 09:45 PM
Sorry to say but I'm out as the Chev's are coming and I will have to work this Sat. Dang I was looking forward to getting out in the snow.

Sprockett
01-27-2010, 11:39 PM
I don't have a chainsaw, shoulda got in on that group buy :(

That's too bad Harry, hopefully there will be another opportunity this winter. Looks like Doc McCoy is now confirmed so we'll still be 6 trucks this run.

So, the run still does not have an official 'leader' and although I started the thread, I do not know the area. I actually don't mind breaking trail if no one else wants the job but someone else will have to actually decide where we are going :D

Thanks,
Ryan

Wellsy
01-27-2010, 11:55 PM
Ok I'll bring my chainsaw, and will be there for sure - Truck seem to be all together..

We can figure out exactly where we're going /who's leading when we get out there.

tacotaco
01-28-2010, 12:16 AM
After much consideration I would like to join in on the run. I'm running dedicated snow tires with studds and it may help in the ice. By the sounds of it it looks like its going to be an easy going run and I convinced 874runnersr5 to join up. So I hope its cool with you guys and Shane, me or Antonio can take on a passenger.

Dante's Taco
01-28-2010, 12:33 AM
This sounds great! Looking forward to it & meeting more of you

I've only been there once, so you don't want me leading!

Geoff

S/C '03 taco
01-28-2010, 08:53 AM
I will be there now that my truck is back to health :)
see you there ryan...

S/C '03 taco
01-28-2010, 11:19 AM
no worries, just seeing if someone had any room. If not she can always catch a ride at a later date or i will have to take her in the spring and hopefully find some snow along the way.

i should have room shayne....the benifits of a double cab,lol

CalgaryRider
01-28-2010, 04:24 PM
perfect thx guys. A few of you met Julie last night, she is super pumped to go on a winter run. Are you still meeting at the Timmy's in Cochrane at 8:30? if so I will pass along the info to her. She will show up in a cough, cough, jeep, but she loves Toyotas.

Doc McCoy
01-28-2010, 05:37 PM
Any one bringin a chainsaw - or should I bring mine just incase?

I'll bring the ol' bow saw!

So yes ... please bring the chainsaw. Hasn't been that windy but sometimes the way to Margaret Lake gets a bunch a downed trees.

FJeff Cruiser
01-28-2010, 06:47 PM
I will be there now that my truck is back to health :)
see you there ryan...

Chris... glad to hear it... we haven't wheeled together yet.

S/C '03 taco
01-28-2010, 08:12 PM
sweet.... well i guess i'll see you at timmies in the A.M. saturday
the decission is timmies in cochrane , right?

FJeff Cruiser
01-28-2010, 08:34 PM
sweet.... well i guess i'll see you at timmies in the A.M. saturday
the decission is timmies in cochrane , right?

Yeah Tim's at 8:30am.




Date and Time: Saturday, Jan 30th 8:30am @ meeting location
Meeting Location: Cochrane, Tim Hortons
Who's Leading: Open position
Who's Tail Gunning: Open position
Expected Number of Trucks: 9
Expected Time of Return: Off trail by 4pm
Radio Channles (CB, FRS, VHF): CB 10 / FRS 1 sub 0
The Trail Name: New winter trails? Margaret Lake?
Difficulty Expected: Unknown
Equipment Needed: Recovery Points front and rear, AT or MT tires with tread left, extra clothing, food water for everyone in the vehicle
CT4WD Courses Needed: None

Sprockett
01-29-2010, 09:21 PM
Ok, see you guys at Timmy's. I plan to get there about 8am.

RL4x4
01-30-2010, 01:33 PM
AAaaaargh I just saw this.....four hours too late. Maybe if I had a supercharger I could catch up :D Next time...