flat tire!

[eachin]

I woke up this morning to find my front passenger side tire flat. So I put on the spare and stopped by crappy tire on the way to work to see if they could repair it but apparently the screw that penetrated the tread is too close to the sidewall and it can't be repaired. It only has 10k miles on it too...

So, I guess I have to buy a new tire. Problem is, I don't want to spend $250 plus $50 to mount and balance a :):):):)ty goodyear wrangler tire for my truck.

I had planned to drive those for another year or 2 and then purchase a nice set of winters and summers as my cash flow allowed.

So I guess I'm stuck with 2 options, purchase a :):):):)ty tire i don't want which feels like a waste of money to me, or purchase a nice set of 5 mud terrains that I really can't afford right now...

Or maybe there's a third option, would it be a bad idea to purchase a pair of mud terrains to put on either the front or back and run them with the existing goodyear wranglers, and then purchase the other 3 as my cash flow improves?

Also, why is my spare a different tire than my regular tires? shouldn't they all be the same? The spare is a BFGoodrich rugged trail A/T (regular tires are goodyear wrangler SR-A)

Oh, and I guess there's another problem. If I buy nice mud terrains, I want to try to get 32's or 33s, problem is, I don't have my OME lift on the front yet (it's part of the imminent group buy), and I have no lift on the back aside from the rear leaf spring TSB. Will I be able to fit 33s as my truck current sits (lets say I have the OME lift on)?

[Heeltoe989]

I would take it to a good tire shop and see if they will put a patch on the inside and a plug, I have done this on other trucks with nails close to the side wall and they didn't have any issues again until they replaced the tires when they were worn out.

[eachin]

well, that would be the best case scenario for me as I'm really not ready to make any big purchases right now. Any suggestions on a good tire shop?

[Heeltoe989]

well, that would be the best case scenario for me as I'm really not ready to make any big purchases right now. Any suggestions on a good tire shop?

I know a few in Edmonton that would, but I'm not too sure about Calgary. Sorry

[874runnersr5]

Well at my shop its not a good idea to put a patch near the sidewall.. itll hold but after awhile the flex from the sidewall will cause it to leak.. if you bring it by my shop i can do it if you want for dirt cheap..

[jreid]

Also, why is my spare a different tire than my regular tires? shouldn't they all be the same? The spare is a BFGoodrich rugged trail A/T (regular tires are goodyear wrangler SR-A)


Rugged Trails come standard on TRD OR trim trucks. You bought yours used, so the PO must have switched the rugged fails for wranglers.


Oh, and I guess there's another problem. Will I be able to fit 33s as my truck current sits (lets say I have the OME lift on)?

Definitely not at stock height. 33's are known to rub pretty badly, even with a full three inch lift. Just ask Etienne!

With the OME lift on, (presuming 886 coils), 2-3" of lift is expected, right? You'd fit 33's but rub a lot of fenderwell. Front mudflaps would have to go. The AP front bumper will help. Don't forget about the body mounts. See canadian bum's thread for pics of a body mount chop+weld.

Ah, and of course all of this assumes you've bought rims with correct backspacing (~4.5"), or installed 1" or greater spacers. 33's will rub your UCA on stock rims.



Or maybe there's a third option, would it be a bad idea to purchase a pair of mud terrains to put on either the front or back and run them with the existing goodyear wranglers, and then purchase the other 3 as my cash flow improves?

This is a poor idea on any vehicle. With a 4wd truck, it's an even worse idea. Replace all four at once, or not at all. Especially if you are planning to go nearly 2" greater in diameter.


Sorry to hear about your flat. I had 40,000km on my stock dunlops, and got my THIRD flat on the same tire. With two plugs already installed, I just said :):):):)it, and bought a brand new set of winter tires. Wasn't worth the risk or expense of getting a third flat fix on the same tire, especially the dunlops.

[eachin]

Rugged Trails come standard on TRD OR trim trucks. You bought yours used, so the PO must have switched the rugged fails for wranglers.

lame, I did buy it "used", but it had never actually been "owned" by anyone, just bounced from one dealership to another until it landed in Canada, so I guess a dealership did this? Weird. Any thoughts on how the wranglers compare to the rugged trails? the tread on the rugged trails looks a lot more aggressive..


Definitely not. 33's are known to rub pretty badly, even with a full three inch lift. Just ask Etienne!

hmm, that conflicts with other advice I received, I was told I could fit 33s with an OME lift with a little trimming. Good to know that it won't work on the rear anyway, thanks, that helps limit the options.

edit: just saw your edit, yes, OME 886, and an all pro front bumper, so feasible, but not without a lot of trimming, and not feasible in the rear without a lift?


This is a poor idea on any vehicle. With a 4wd truck, it's an even worse idea. Replace all four at once, or not at all. Especially if you are planning to go nearly 2" greater in diameter.

Yeah, I was pretty sure it would be a bad idea, just thought I'd confirm.


Well at my shop its not a good idea to put a patch near the sidewall.. itll hold but after awhile the flex from the sidewall will cause it to leak.. if you bring it by my shop i can do it if you want for dirt cheap..

Where is your shop? Can I give you a call? If you think it will get me through the summer (and I can avoid any serious offroading for one more summer) that should be long enough to allow me to save some cash for new winter tires, then in spring 2011 I will hopefully be able to buy new mud terrains.

[jreid]

lame, I did buy it "used", but it had never actually been "owned" by anyone, just bounced from one dealership to another until it landed in Canada, so I guess a dealership did this? Weird. Any thoughts on how the wranglers compare to the rugged trails? the tread on the rugged trails looks a lot more aggressive..

hmm, that conflicts with other advice I received, I was told I could fit 33s with an OME lift with a little trimming. Good to know that it won't work on the rear anyway, thanks, that helps limit the options.

edit: just saw your edit, yes, OME 886, and an all pro front bumper, so feasible, but not without a lot of trimming, and not feasible in the rear without a lift?

Don't let me scare you off 33's! They will fit, it's all a question of how much trimming will be req'd. I would not expect any trimming in the rear at all. fitment in the rear should not be an issue.

They will fit in the front, and your AP bumper gives miles of room on the front side of the wheelwells, but I am fairly certain you'll need to remove the front mud flaps.

As for the body mount chop, that's something I have very little knowledge of at all... I don't know if that would be required. Somebody knowledgeable help me out! :)


edit: I am in a similar situation as you, regarding tire sizing... I've got my summer rims in, now I'm trying to decide how big and aggressive I want to go. Since this is my DD (50+km every weekday), I don't want to sacrifice driveability and gas mileage. I'm definitely a 90% on / 10% off -road driver. For those reasons, I dont think I'll be going bigger than 265/75/r16's, and probably an AT tread, rather than an MT.

I've been reading lots but have zero experience actually installing 33's, so I know somebody will come in here and set the record straight.

PSS: despite their aggressive looks, the rugged trails seem to be universally despised online for poor traction in wet/snow, bad clearing ability, etc etc. Strangely, the BFG ATs (which dont LOOK much different) receive nearly unilateral praise. I don't know much about the wranglers. Their tirerack reviews look pretty middling. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+SR-A

[eachin]

Just thought I'd let everyone know the outcome. Antonio patched my supposedly unpatchable tire for me saving me lots of cash and probably some headaches. Now I can upgrade my tires on my own schedule and not waste money buying a single :):):):)ty replacement.

Thanks again man,
Kyle

[eachin]

PSS: despite their aggressive looks, the rugged trails seem to be universally despised online for poor traction in wet/snow, bad clearing ability, etc etc. Strangely, the BFG ATs (which dont LOOK much different) receive nearly unilateral praise. I don't know much about the wranglers. Their tirerack reviews look pretty middling. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+SR-A

I have basically zero truck tire experience to compare to, but I can tell you that from what I've seen, these wrangles are probably best suited to use as a tire swing, they are absolutely horrible.

[874runnersr5]

Just thought I'd let everyone know the outcome. Antonio patched my supposedly unpatchable tire for me saving me lots of cash and probably some headaches. Now I can upgrade my tires on my own schedule and not waste money buying a single :):):):)ty replacement.

Thanks again man,
Kyle

Hey dude, no problem :D

she still holdin?? :rolleyes:

[Heeltoe989]

Hey dude, no problem :D

she still holdin?? :rolleyes:

And the forum saves another Toyota owner!